Re: (NVU) Re: Eid-e-Millad Sawab Ya Biddat

JAZZAKALLAH Ayesha Ikram sister.....nice information....
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:00 PM, mc090205838 Ayesha Ikram <mc090205838@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwDJkL-Ywvs

i m sure this is the video which started this discussion........come on people....dont talk of FIRQAWAARIAT ......we r just Muslims..hum woh kaam boht lagan say kerty haim jo hamain apny asaan say muzhab sy door ly jaa raha hy ...or basic or bohat hi initial kaam chore rahy hain ........saaf baat hay agar AAP SWALAM ki zaat nay kabhi woh kaam nahi kia to hum q ker rahy hain......can we justify this querry ??? 

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, munna kakka <cacluationmaster@gmail.com> wrote:

Well all Friends dont discuss such sensitive topics...

continue with what you are doing... dont push to turn others on your way

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:35 AM, ISHI KHAN 石汗 <ishfaq647@gmail.com> wrote:

hmm DAROOD o SALAM harwqt parhna chahiye ....lekn i m confuse ke EID MELAAD NABI  ki history kya hai? 

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On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Moderator <dopvision@gmail.com> wrote:

Simply coz the Firqa there ,, don't believe to celebrate.. that's it.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:01 PM, ISHI KHAN 石汗 <ishfaq647@gmail.com> wrote:

i hate firq wariat...we are all same  MUSLIMS...just tell me y saudi people dont do these things? if u know its ur duty to tell us..

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這是我的風格。哈哈                                                  اب تو عادت  سی ہے مجھکو ایسے جینے میں                                                                                                                                                                
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Moderator <dopvision@gmail.com> wrote:

i mentioned below.. no Firqa discussion here. . ju jis ku follow kr raha hy wo imam bilqul theek ar respectable hain. . lkin kia unn Imam ki wohi preaching follow ki ja rahi hain .ju unhu ny farmai..

 if you want to discuss firqa.. come on personal mail.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:50 PM, ISHI KHAN 石汗 <ishfaq647@gmail.com> wrote:

so iska matlab hai ke they are not wrong. i dont know about that sorry

tell me idf they are following that imam so are they wrong?

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Age 23 Yrs
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這是我的風格。哈哈                                                  اب تو عادت  سی ہے مجھکو ایسے جینے میں                                                                                                                                                                
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Moderator <dopvision@gmail.com> wrote:

can u tell me the name of IMAM , people follow in Saudi Arabia.. if you know the name.. you will get the answer.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:45 PM, ISHI KHAN 石汗 <ishfaq647@gmail.com> wrote:

EID-Meelad-Un-NABI  SAudi Arabia me q nai celebrate hota? yaha to koi pooochta be nai ..aur na yaha ijazat hai isko celebrate karne ka.....

what do u think about SAudi arab? are they wrong?
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ISHI KHAN
Age 23 Yrs
Nationality Pakistani                                                       Proud To Be A PAKISTANI
這是我的風格。哈哈                                                  اب تو عادت  سی ہے مجھکو ایسے جینے میں                                                                                                                                                                
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Moderator <dopvision@gmail.com> wrote:

Agree with Waqar sb..

Lkin shazia bibi . just i wanna ask the name of Mulana jin sy aap ny confirm kiya. IJTEHAD ka hukm hy.. Fatwa bhi Aaima karam akhty hu kr mashawrt sy dety hain. 4 bry Aaima karam

1. Imam Abu Hanifa, 80 AH  - 148 AH
2. Imam Malik ibn Anas 93 AH  - 179 AH
3. Imam Shafi  (Muhammad ibn Idrees Ash-Shafi)
150 AH  - 204 AH
4. Imam Ahmad ibn Hambal 164 AH  - 241 AH

kia aap koi hawala dy skti hain jin mn sy inn mn sy kisi bhi aalam ny aesa koi fatwa dya hu.. aap bhi inni mn sy kisi ak ki follower hu gi..

Last imam ka bhi ju period hy. 164 AH to 241 AH.. iss waqat tk AHADEES MUBARAKA, akhty krny ka silsala start nhi hua tha.. taqreban 300 sal guzar jany ky baad,, MUKAMAL AHADEES  (SAHI AHADEES) ku akhtha kia gaya..
iss lye inn tamam AAIMA KARAM ny buhat wazeha ilfaz mn farmya ky agr hmara koi bhi fatwa , kisi bhi HADEES ku oppose krta hy. tu aap ussy foren chor dijye ar HADEES ku hi follow krain..

Tu kla aap koi SAHE HADESS with reference bta skti hain. jis mn iss bat ki mumaneyat hu.

agr ye sirf ak firqa ky concept hain tu.. mn mazrat ky sath khna chaho ga. ky inhy iss forum sy duur rakhye.. iss tarha tu ak firqa, FARAZ namaz ky elawa kisi bhi ar namaz ky baad DUA mangny ku bidat khta hy.. tu kia aap nafal namaz ya tahajad parh kr dua nhi mangty ..?

ye different FIRQA's ky follower bhi hmary jese hain. baghair tasdeeq kiya apny apny asool nikaly hue hain.. apny apny imam ku bhi sahi follow nhi krty hain.
Hm NABI PAK (SALALAHU WA ALEHI WASALAM) ky mubarak din ku kisi bhi ar din sy ziada joosh ar aqeedat sy manaty hain ar insallah manaty rhy gy.. hmaray ma bap aap NABI (SALALAHU WA ALEHI WASALAM ) ki hurmat pr qurban..





and Imam

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, mc080408680 Shazia Bano <mc080408680@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

ok.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:27 AM, MiAn WaQaR <mianwaqar1@gmail.com> wrote:

Shazia Sister, Mr. Rizwaan n other friendz,

It has already been circulated many times on the group.
Please avoid to comment on the conflicted stuff. This is my modest request. Do share the basic ideology/principles of our perfect religion Islam but avoid commenting of the conflicted object please.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:07 AM, mc080408680 Shazia Bano <mc080408680@vu.edu.pk> wrote:

Asalamoalikum to all..........some days b4 ayesha send a link of  mufti video ab8 celebration of Eid milad-un-Nabi..we can't ignore ulma's points ...u may also saw th8.....look Any new innovation in Islam is Bid'at.......... if it is against the teachings of Quran and   the Sunnah of Rasulallah (SalallahoAlaiheWasalam), specially if this new innovation demolishes the Sunnah of the prophet Muhammad (SalallahoAlaiheWasalam)..and Rasulallah (SalallahoAlaiheWasalam), never celebrate His date of birth n not teach to others sahabiy-e-Kram to do so......rather confirmed he put FAST at monday...bithday celebration is forbidden in Islam,........recently i confirmed from mufti personally.........after th8 when i also post wishes for our fellows birthdays..........Allah muaaf karay.......hum deen ko dunya say relate nahi ker saktay...........Gunnahoon ki Allah say Muaafi mangni chahiye na k uss ko follow karna chahiye..........mujhay bhi dair say pata chala...... lakin chal to gaya na ........should i still repeat my previous mistakes..no way........u know unperh say ziada perhay likhoon ki pakerh hay.......addition in here .....Jahil aur unperh main bohat ferq hota hay.....jahil wo jis ko ilm mila aur uss ay amal na kiya....to kiya hum jahil hain? .......nahin na..... Alhamdulilah kafi aqal hay.......apnay deen ko samjho aur uss per amal karo ...........her koi apnay aamal ka khud hi zimay dar hay.......we can't say th8 we r Muslim bcoz our parents r Muslim.........no n not .......now we all are mature enough to understand our religion.....we can't take relief bcoz of ignorance ...........Quraan Hadith ya sunnah kahin say ager app ko koi shahadat milti hay to follow karo nahin to chor do us cheez ko jis say deen main kuch shaq paida hota ho.......ALLAH BLESS US ALL....

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Rizwan Bukhari <bukharig@gmail.com> wrote:

Hum log kya Hazur AQDUS salalallha-o-allehey-wasalim sey pyar krte
hein?
agr krtey hein to hum hr us cheez mein daleel kyon mangtey hein jis
sey hum mein NABi sey Muhabbat jhalakti hai es ka matlub to y huwa k
hamari abi sey muhabbat mashrot hai geer-masroot nahi

oo bhai merey tu ya terey aba-o-ajdad ajj agr muslman hein to tum o
RAB ki pehcan us NABI ney krwai agr Allah_Talah app (salalallha-o-
allehey-wasalim)
ko es dunia mein na bhejta to tu kia RAB ko pehchanta

Ye JASHAN app (salalallha-o-allehey-wasalim) ki aamad haarey muslman
aur UMATEY_MUHAMMADI mein paida honey ka hai
 aur hamei es pe fakar hai.....




Tu apni olad ki wildat pe khushh tha

apney NABI ki wiladat pe khush nehi
Aakir Kyoun..?

Tuney ani olad ki Khushi mein Dawatein ki

aney NABI kiwiladaat ki khushimein dawa ko Bidat kaha
Aakir Kyon...?

Tuney Olad ki Shadi pe Ghar Sajaya

Apney JASHaN_E_WILADAT pe ghar sajaney ko bidat
kaha
Aakir kyon..?

Tuney her Khushi be-Daleel manai
pr JASAN_E_WILADAT ki Daleel mangi

Aakir Kyon..?

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